Is the controversy on the issue of Ram Setu Right???

[funnyfaridabadi]

Bhai log, mere ko ye samjhao ki India me ho kya raha hai? Ye Neta Log kab sudhrenge...


ye bina soche samjhe kuchh bhi kar dete hai, aur fir baad mein kona dhoondte rehte hai chhupne ke liye. Ab yahi dekho ye pehle Ram Setu Samudram Pariyojna banayi, bina ye soche ki iska relation ramayan aur hinduo se hai, phir ASI ne ye affidevit bhi de diya ki Ramayan ke samaya ke kisi bhi vyakti ka Vaigyanik Astitva(Scientific Agsistance) nahi hai.

Ab ye baat sahi hai ya nahi ye batao. Aap log is par kya sochte hai.

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http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20070025980&ch=9/13/2007%202:43:00%20PM

[GodFather]

Well from w hat I read and heard, this Sri Lanka is not the Lanka that Rama invaded to rescue Sita.

[leleram]

geographically considering the names of places (ayodhya, lanka, panchwati, raamsetu....still exist today) ,and archelogically the traces found, have affirmed that lord rama existed and he battled with ravana to take back seeta.

[GodFather]

geographically considering the names of places (ayodhya, lanka, panchwati, raamsetu....still exist today) ,and archelogically the traces found, have affirmed that lord rama existed and he battled with ravana to take back seeta.

Yes thats true that we have places with same names. But there has been no finiding which can corroborate Lord Rama's existence and also of Ravana. Based on what is said in Ramayana(Valmikis version) and Manas (Tulsi Dasji's version) and after reading some text on Rama and Ravana I am of the opinion that if at all Lanka existed it must have been somewhere inside India only long time back.
long long time ago the central part of india was a water body. My guess is that the city of lanka must have been some city across that.

[leleram]

bhai as mentioned in ramayana and ram charit manas, lanka was a country of demons (and i quite agree with this,, have u seen mithaiya murlitharan and malinga :lol:) and was away from bharat, it was an island and., besides that satellite pics have shown some traces of raamsetu near rameshwaram.

[GodFather]

bhai as mentioned in ramayana and ram charit manas, lanka was a country of demons (and i quite agree with this,, have u seen mithaiya murlitharan and malinga :lol:) and was away from bharat, it was an island and., besides that satellite pics have shown some traces of raamsetu near rameshwaram.

Thats true that Malinga looks like Demon and so does Asanka Gurusimha. But those satellite pics are indeed correct but they are wrongly fuelling the concept of it being the bridge. This my guess is started forming during the continental drift of Gondwana Land towards Laurasia Land.

[airINDIA]

:dito: GodFather....

I was just about to say that we're talking about a time some 10000 years ago, which is significant in 2 ways:

1) Geographical aspect - The world's continental layout as we see it today was nowhere near close that many years ago. There are theories of Continents of America and Africa joined at the hip and then started drifting apart. There are also theories of the whole mass of land being one big mass with "Holes" of water in between, which may have seemed like "Sea/Ocean" in those days.

2) Mythological aspect - Again, we speak of times when NO RELIGION of today's world existed. Hindu is probably the oldest religion, but "Hinduism" is still nothing but a name of religion that evolved from our pagan beliefs some 10000 years ago. These are times when people all around the world believed in "Tangible Idols" such as Sun, Stars, Rain, Fire, Moon, and thousands of others. These are the times when Greek and Roman Mythology was at it's peek. They spoke of Medusa, Oedipus and the city of Troy and such, orchastrator of which were writers like Homer, who are rather exaggerators than REAL historian. Even modern time Greeks and Romans would admit to this.

So, could it be that all these talk about demons and such are nothing more than historical exaggeration, which went on quite so frequently in those times.

I guess, what I'm saying is there were two great "Historians" from two of the biggest and most advanced civilization of that time - Homer and Valmiki.

That said, none of Homer's work has been confirmed. Hell, they say the all famous city of TROY may not even have existed at all; and neither did Helen of Troy. What does that say about Valmiki?

[leleram]

So, could it be that all these talk about demons and such are nothing more than historical exaggeration, which went on quite so frequently in those times.
:dito:
dhuwa uthne ke liye bhi aag chahiye.....agar exaggeration hai to real me bhi raam and ramayan existed, aur mujhe ye batao ki what make u feel that raam did not exist or its purely myth??

[funnyfaridabadi]

Bhai log agar ram nahi the to kya mohammad sahab ke hone ka ya jesus ke hone ka koi sabut de sakte ho, nahi na, agar sab itihaas jhootha hai ya wo sab nahi hua tha to kya hai sachai, tumhaara vigyaan sach hai, to Vigyaan kehta hai ki aadmi ki utpatti bandaro se hui hai, to aaj bandar insaan kyo nahi bante. I don't believe in science, because on one stage science itself says beyond this point there is nature, science has never understand the nature, but ruined the nature nothing else.

[airINDIA]

:dito:
dhuwa uthne ke liye bhi aag chahiye.....agar exaggeration hai to real me bhi raam and ramayan existed, aur mujhe ye batao ki what make u feel that raam did not exist or its purely myth??

Oh..no.. may be you read me wrong.. I don't think Lord Rama didn't exist. I think he existed. He was a great king. Could've even had great powers, but I meant to say I don't think there were DEMONS that he fought. I think that's exaggerated...

Sorry for the the confusion... :)

[funnyfaridabadi]

Bhaiya raam nahi the to raam setu kaha se aaya????

[airINDIA]

Bhaiya raam nahi the to raam setu kaha se aaya????

:crazy: Bhai meri post thik se padho, and the second one too... I said Raam DID exist. I said I don't think DEMONS existed.

I hope I'm clear now...

[funnyfaridabadi]

:crazy: Bhai meri post thik se padho, and the second one too... I said Raam DID exist. I said I don't think DEMONS existed.

I hope I'm clear now...

:blink::blink:

Isse mujhe yaad aaya,

think one day you are on one side and the whole world is opposite to you, what you will do?

Just turn back and you will be the leader of the world....

Bhaiya palto mat :3:

[airINDIA]

:blink::blink:

Isse mujhe yaad aaya,

think one day you are on one side and the whole world is opposite to you, what you will do?

Just turn back and you will be the leader of the world....

Bhaiya palto mat :3:

Palat nahi raha hu. Below is a quote directly taken from my earlier post... I've bolded out the part that says I was talking about DEMONS and not RAAMA. Just to be more clear. I do think that Raama existed, but there is no evidence of him being direct descendant of Lord Vishnu. He was a great king, beloved more than others in him time, and he may even have some great powers.

Let's not forget, ancient time Asia/Persia required public to refer to their king as GOD. General civilians were only told stories of their quests, be it battle of something nobel, only upon their return to their kingdom.



So, could it be that all these talk about demons and such are nothing more than historical exaggeration, which went on quite so frequently in those times.